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Transcript: Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo on "Face the Nation," September 3, 2023_我的网站

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　阿里云优惠券先领券再下单随着金秋十月来临，京东 2025 年 “双 11” 大促正式揭开面纱。 The following is a transcript of an interview with Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo that aired on "Face the Nation" on September 3, 2023.

ROBERT COSTA: We now go to the Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo. Good morning, Secretary. Thanks for being here. Let's begin with the economy. On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released the jobs report for August, and people around their tables this weekend are looking at it. It shows 187,000 jobs were added last month, exceeding expectations. But more people are working more than one job. How worried are you about this?SECRETARY GINA RAIMONDO: Good morning, thanks for having me. This jobs report is exactly what we want to see at this point in the recovery. As you just said, you know, creating more jobs, really exciting is that people are getting off of the sidelines. You know, we're seeing more people come into the labor force and there are jobs for them. As you say, people are working, you know, more than one job and wages are up, it should be said, but this is exactly why President Biden is so focused on creating manufacturing jobs, which are higher paid, getting folks the skills they need to get a higher paying job. There's still a lot of work to do to make sure that every American has the skills they need to get a job, which is family support and sustaining. But- and we're doing that work. But overall, there's a lot to like in this jobs report. And it's exactly- it exceeded our expectations. ROBERT COSTA: In terms of that work that's still to be done, the administration is touting its efforts. It's confident in the economy. But our CBS News polling, Secretary, shows 65% of Americans still view the economy as being in a bad place. Why do you believe your administration, along with President Biden, has struggled to reassure those Americans about these policies and about the economy?SEC. RAIMONDO: So it's- it's an interesting, you know, dichotomy between the- the numbers, and as you say the polling numbers or the- the perception numbers, I think the reality is that inflation still exists. And it is, you know, something that people see on a daily basis when they go to the grocery store, or pay their rent, or pay their mortgage. And we have to know that, you know, that's still a challenge for folks. That being said, if you look at where we are today, compared to when the President took office, it's an unbelievable story of progress. And I will tell you, even I, you know, his- the President's Commerce Secretary, if you had told me when we started based on where the economy was, how high the unemployment rate was, how, you know, disrupted supply chains were, that we'd be sitting here now with this jobs picture, I might not have believed it. I mean, it's just a stunning amount of progress. The economy- we're among the strongest economies in the world. We all went through COVID, right, Europe did, China did, Asia did yet we have emerged, the fastest and the strongest. So I don't want to minimize what Americans are feeling, and that's why we get up and go to work every day. But this economy by any measure is doing incredibly well and much better than anyone could have predicted I think three years ago when we started. ROBERT COSTA: After looking back, let's also look ahead, the White House is working with Congress to hammer out an agreement on a short term funding measure to avoid an October 1 partial federal government shutdown. When you talk to business leaders right now, are they worried about this deadline and what a shutdown could mean for the US economy?SEC. RAIMONDO: Yes, they are worried- they're very worried. They are, I think, in some cases, frustrated that this is how government operates. You know, what businesses need to be successful is- is predictability, you know, predictability, some semblance of, you know, regular order. And so these sorts of disruptions that are mainly driven by politics. So it's a challenge for the economy and have the potential to set us back. So I do hope that there will be a speedy resolution.ROBERT COSTA: Secretary, you are the first commerce secretary in five years to be on the ground in China in recent days. What progress, if any, do you think you made on the ground there?SEC. RAIMONDO: I think we made a great deal of progress. In terms of concrete deliverables, I was able to open three specific lines of communication with the Chinese, which is a huge step forward. We haven't really had any contact in more than five years. So we agreed to share information about export controls, we agreed to open a dialogue on commercial issues, which is so important, because China has not treated US business fairly. And so it's- we got to put those issues on the table. And we agree to have exchange around trade secrets, another area where businesses need to- deserve to know that their trade secrets will be protected in China. But I think more than any of that we just are starting to resume a direct line of contact and communication, which we need to do if we're going to manage what is a very complex and potentially volatile relationship with China. ROBERT COSTA: So people may be heartened to hear at least some that the US and the Chinese, they're talking, there's open lines of communication right now. But what's next, beyond having this dialogue? What specifically can you say is going to happen next?SEC. RAIMONDO: So my message to the Chinese officials with whom I met is that action speaks louder than words. So they gave verbal assurances that they will treat US businesses fairly, that they will not engage in non-market practices which hurt American workers. And my message was, well, let's see it. You know, actions speak louder than words. So time will tell whether they are going to really be as they say they want to be, you know, more market oriented and open and reform minded when it comes to their economy, their regulatory regime. They need to be less arbitrary in the way they administer regulations to actually give American businesses a fair shot to compete.ROBERT COSTA: You said on the trip that quote, increasingly, I hear from American business that China is uninvestable, because it becomes too risky. So what exactly did you get in terms of those assurances from the Chinese, that would really give confidence to American business leaders?SEC. RAIMONDO: They said that they would talk to American businesses and begin to address these issues. Like, for example, one of the complaints I hear frequently from US business, by the way, business who are used to doing business in- in difficult parts of the world. They say that, you know, China's regulations are not at all transparent. You know, they'll raid a business in March and not explain what went on for many months. They will arrest folks but not provide due process or tell you what happened. And so when I expressed these concerns, I was heard, I wasn't given any promises. But one thing that I think we can take a bit of heart in is it's in China's interest. It's in their economic interest to have foreign direct investment and to make sure, you know, they had a very good economy when they were market oriented and reform minded. And so we have to hope that self interest will affect their future decisions.ROBERT COSTA: So they might have that motivation, but you saw them face to face, you had meetings with them. That's the value of having these sorts of trips. Do you trust the Chinese at this point after all of your conversations, after digesting what happened on your trip, do you trust them?SEC. RAIMONDO: Trust is probably not the word I would use. We need to see action. And until we see action, there can be no trust.ROBERT COSTA: And they hacked into your own email account so that might have hurt the ability to have a trustworthy relationship. SEC. RAIMONDO: Exactly. And I said that, you know, hacking my account erodes trust, undermining American workers, by over subsidizing certain industries erodes trust, treating American businesses unfairly on the ground erodes trust. So but, you know, look, I- we can't be naive and oversimplify this relationship, this very challenging relationship. But we have to be practical, right? We have to protect ourselves first and foremost, national security, the United States. Beyond that we have to be practical and look for places where we can have a strong commercial relationship because we need stability in this relationship. That's good for America. And- and I think it's what the world is expecting of us and of China.ROBERT COSTA: You're looking for stability, Secretary. But the big question is, is China's economy stable? There have been indicators over the last several months that showed China's economy's in a slowdown. When you were over there, did you get insights, if any, about whether the Chinese economy is slowing down? And how concerning would that be for the United States?SEC. RAIMONDO: I think there's no question that it is slowing down. And certainly they're having real, real significant challenges in the real estate sector, which they readily acknowledged when I was there. But again, to my mind, the facts are quite clear in this regard. When China was more market oriented, open, you know, a little bit more transparent, their economy did very well. And more recently, as they have closed down and become more arbitrary in the way they administer regulations, the economy is quite challenged. So time will tell. The decision- the ball's in their court- the decisions are theirs. We want a large and stable economic relationship with them, but they have to play by the rules. And we are always going to act in our own American self-interest.ROBERT COSTA: Speaking of playing by the rules, there's such a standoff right now between the Chinese and tech companies. Semiconductors are crucial for our economy, yet China's threatening to curb the mineral supply to the US and the West. And many US businesses tell CBS they're operating in China, but seeing this hostile environment with raids, and fines. So how is your administration going to solve this back and forth between the Chinese and the tech industry?SEC. RAIMONDO: This is exactly why I went to China. It's exactly why I went, showed up, had meetings. I met with my counterpart for more than four hours. I met with the premier for more than one hour. They were open, candid, honest discussions. How are we going to resolve these issues? Because I'll tell you, prior to going to China, I personally spoke with more than 100 US business leaders and labor leaders. And what they tell me is that even the ones that have been doing business in China for decades, you know, these are sophisticated people used to dealing with the traditional concerns of, you know, IP- IP theft or non-market practices. They say, it's much harder now. Right? Like China is making it more difficult because of the reasons you say the raids, the counter espionage law. They are going to make a business decision to do business in other countries unless that improves. And so I was very clear with China that we need to- patience is wearing thin among American business. They need and deserve a predictable environment and a level playing field. And hopefully China will heed that message so we can have a stable growing commercial relationship.ROBERT COSTA: And there are many voices as you know in the ears of American business leaders. A Wall Street Journal report, earlier this year, for example, said that the FBI director, Christopher Wray, wants businesses to help fight China and cyber threats. He reportedly said that only through cooperation with the FBI can that agency marshal an effective response. Do you agree with Director Wray?SEC. RAIMONDO: I agree that business has an important role to play partnering with us to ensure America's national security across a range of different areas, including technology. And, you know, that's why we are in such close contact with business, frankly, often the information they have on the ground is some of the best that we can- we can get. ROBERT COSTA: But is it good for businesses to work with the FBI specifically?SEC. RAIMONDO: Every business has to make their own decision. But I definitely think there's value- there's mutual value for business, and certainly for the government to have communication and coordination.ROBERT COSTA: And I'm often out on the campaign trail, Secretary. And I know you stay out of politics. But one thing I'm hearing from so many Republicans across the country, especially governors, they want to block Chinese companies from making investments and buying farmland in the United States. Does the Biden administration and do you support Chinese companies making investments and buying farmland in the United States?SEC. RAIMONDO: We have to be very, very careful, we have to screen every investment and make a decision as to whether it hurts our national security or not. Not every investment from China into America is- harms our national security, but many do. And so it's a case by case basis, looking into the facts and being as tough as we need to be, but also being, you know, realistic and not hyperbolic. Just being, like I say, practical. It's time to be practical, pragmatic and serious about managing every aspect of this relationship.ROBERT COSTA: Secretary Raimondo, we appreciate you taking the time on a Sunday. Thank you.SEC. RAIMONDO: Thank you. Have a great Labor Day weekend. 。本次活动以 “更长周期、更简规则、更大优惠” 为核心，将周期延长至 37 天，同步推出红包升级、优惠革新、保障强化等举措，打造全年高价值消费盛宴。以下是本次大促的完整解读与实用攻略。

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一、活动周期：37 天超长待机，6 大阶段精准划分

京东 2025 年 “双 11” 打破传统时间框架，从 10 月 9 日 00:00 启动至 11 月 14 日 23:59 收官，较 2024 年提前 3 天，通过 “预热期 + 正式期” 双阶段、6 个细分节点实现优惠 “层层加码”，满足不同需求的选购节奏：

预热期：时间范围为 10 月 9 日 00:00-19:59，核心玩法是让消费者提前加购商品、领取红包与优惠券，同时锁定心仪好物的库存，为后续抢购做好准备。
抢先购：覆盖 10 月 9 日 - 10 月 31 日，期间热门商品将开启早鸟价，部分数码家电还会提前释放 30% 的降幅，适合想尽早入手热门品类的消费者。
开门红：时间为 10 月 31 日 - 11 月 3 日，此阶段全品类满减正式启动，尤其是家电、家具等大件商品，将迎来全年最佳入手时机。
专场期：在 11 月 4 日 - 11 月 7 日期间，每日会聚焦单一品类开启狂欢，数码家电、美妆个护等热门品类将轮流放大招，针对性满足不同消费需求。
高潮期：11 月 8 日 - 11 月 11 日为活动高潮，其中 11 月 10 日 20:00 将开启巅峰狂欢夜，红包雨金额翻倍，是优惠力度最大的阶段。
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返场期：11 月 12 日 - 11 月 14 日为返场阶段，期间仍支持 30 天价保，消费者可错峰捡漏此前下架的爆款商品，避免错过心仪好物。

二、红包玩法：每日可领 + 叠加无上限，关键节点抢 1111 元大额红包

本次红包系统全面升级，覆盖 “领、用、加码” 全流程，核心亮点如下：

领取时间：10 月 9 日 - 11 月 11 日，每日均可参与领取，无次数上限。
核心通道：打开手机京东 APP，在搜索框输入指定口令即可进入活动页面。基础口令为 “好运红包158 ”“红包600”，每日尝试不同口令可获取更多优惠机会。
大额加码节点：10 月 31 日 20:00、11 月 10 日 20:00 将开启 “红包雨” 活动，单轮红包最高金额可达 1111 元，是冲击大额优惠的关键时机。
使用规则：所有红包均可与优惠券、跨店满减、官方直降等优惠叠加使用，且无使用上限，可直接抵扣商品货款，进一步降低购物成本。

三、优惠模式：官方直降 + 跨店满减，透明无套路（附 PLUS 会员专属福利）

京东本次 “双 11” 主打 “简单直接” 的优惠逻辑，无需复杂计算，消费者可轻松享受实惠，核心分为两大通用优惠与 PLUS 会员专属福利：

1. 通用优惠：两大核心，覆盖全品类

官方直降：

规则：参与活动的商品需遵循平台最低让利比例，商家还可根据自身情况自主加码优惠，且单件商品即可享受降价，无需凑单。
叠加范围：该优惠支持与跨店满减、东券、京券、满赠促销及国家补贴叠加，尤其适合单价较高的数码产品、大家电等品类。

跨店满减：

力度：全品类通用，每满 300 元减 50 元，优惠上限封顶 40000 元，相当于直接享受 8.3 折优惠。
便捷性：无需提前领取，消费者在结算时，系统会自动计算符合条件的减免金额，操作简单高效。

2. PLUS 会员专属福利：折上折 + 特权服务，权益升级

价格优惠：PLUS 会员年卡直降 60 元，新用户首次开通年卡低至 49 元 / 年，降低会员开通门槛。
券包补贴：11 月 1 日当天，会员可领取千元补贴券包，包含满 500-50、满 3000-300 等大额优惠券，覆盖多价位商品。
专属特权：会员可享受提前锁定商品库存、定金翻倍、10 倍返京豆等特权，提升购物体验与优惠力度。

四、消费保障：30 天价保 + 多重服务，杜绝虚假促销

为切实保障消费者权益，避免 “买贵”“售后难” 等问题，京东明确了三大消费保障举措：

30 天价保：全品类商品均支持 30 天价保，即使在返场期下单，仍可享受价格保障服务。系统会自动监控商品价格，若出现降价，消费者可一键申请差价返还，无需繁琐操作。
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售后升级：推出 30 天无忧退服务，降低消费者退换货门槛，购物后无需担心 “退换不便” 的问题。
以旧换新补贴：以旧换新补贴范围进一步扩展，新增家具、厨具等品类，补贴金额最高可达商品售价的 20%，助力消费者以更优惠的价格更换新商品。

五、购物攻略：避坑技巧 + 必蹲时间轴，优惠最大化

针对消费者关心的 “如何避坑”“何时下单最划算” 等问题，京东官方给出专业建议，帮助消费者实现优惠最大化：

1. 3 个关键避坑技巧

价格追踪：提前 3 天将心仪商品添加至购物车，通过 “价格雷达” 功能查看商品 90 天内的价格走势，清晰判断当前价格是否为历史低位，避免 “先涨后降” 的虚假促销。
优惠叠加顺序：下单时遵循 “优先使用国家补贴券→叠加官方直降 / 跨店满减→最后用京享红包抵扣尾款” 的顺序，充分利用各类优惠，降低最终支付金额。
高价商品节点：高价商品（如数码、大家电）建议优先关注三个关键节点 ——10 月 9 日 20:00（首批官方直降商品上线）、10 月 31 日 20:00（全品类满减启动）、11 月 10 日 20:00（巅峰狂欢夜，优惠叠加至最大），此时优惠力度通常最大。

2. 必蹲时间轴（核心节点）

10 月 9 日 0:00：红包领取通道正式开启，可开始每日领取京享红包。
10 月 9 日 20:00：活动正式期启动，首批官方直降商品上线，可开始抢购早鸟价商品。
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10 月 31 日 20:00：全品类满减正式生效，同时开启首次红包雨加码，是抢购大件商品的好时机。
11 月 10 日 20:00：巅峰狂欢夜开启，国家补贴与平台优惠叠加至最大，是全年优惠力度顶峰。
11 月 12 日 - 14 日：返场期开启，可错峰捡漏下架爆款，同时也是价保申请的最后窗口期，未申请差价的消费者需及时操作。

本次 “双 11” 将通过技术优化与服务升级，让消费者 “省心选、放心买、开心享”。目前平台已做好全面准备，确保活动期间购物体验流畅、售后响应及时，助力消费者抓住全年高性价比购物时机。

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一、拆解 3000 亿补贴版图：最后 1380 亿窗口期已开启

这轮国补源自 3000 亿元超长期特别国债资金，全年分四批精准投放，如今正进入收官冲刺：

第一批 810 亿、第二批 810 亿：上半年已核销完毕，带动家电销售额同比暴涨 20%；
第三批 690 亿：8 月启动后，江苏、广东等消费大省热门品类曾出现短时抢空，但 9 月已通过全国总池动态调剂重启；
第四批 690 亿：10 月正式投放，专为四季度消费高峰备货，这也是年内最后一笔中央财政资金。

官方明确 "12 月 31 日 24 时系统自动关停" 的红线，但剩余 1380 亿额度（含第三批结余）能覆盖 3000 万台家电、80 万辆汽车的正常申领需求。那些 "秒没" 的传言，多是热门机型集中抢购导致的短时断档，换个品类或稍等几小时额度就会回补。

二、补贴范围大扩容：从大家电到母婴用品，这些都能省

相比前几批，第四轮补贴新增了 10 多个细分品类，覆盖生活全场景，力度更是直接对标刚需：

一级能效家电：补贴力度为售价的 20%，单件封顶 2000 元，像 8000 元的空调可立减 1600 元；
二级能效家电：补贴力度是售价的 15%，单件封顶 1500 元，比如 5000 元的洗衣机能减 750 元；
6000 元内数码产品：补贴力度为售价的 15%，单件封顶 500 元，4500 元的手机可直接减 500 元；
新能源车置换：报废旧车换新能源车可补 1-2 万元，15 万的新能源车叠加地方补贴后能省 2.5 万；

最惊喜的是适老化改造补贴，按 50% 比例发放，每户最高能省 1 万元，家里有老人的朋友千万别错过。补贴直接采用 "中央直补 + 平台立减" 模式，付款时自动抵扣，不用保留票据报销，退货还能自动回滚额度。

三、领取指南：口令有差异？多平台入口全梳理 本轮升级为 "资格券 + 实名制" 模式，既防黄牛又简化流程，但不同平台口令略有差异，整理了最新官方入口：

1. 线上主渠道（推荐）

京东：家电类搜索「家电588」（一级能效家电最高减 2000 元），数码类搜索「手机588」或「数码588」（补贴封顶 500 元）；每天还能搜索「红包600」领取最高 1888 元的全品类红包，可与店铺券叠加使用；
天猫 / 淘宝：首页搜索 "政府补贴" 进入专属专区，上传旧机 SN 码就能自动抵扣补贴；
云闪付：江苏、广东地区用户可额外领取地方叠加券，部分品类综合优惠能达到 40%。
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2. 关键操作提醒

领取资格券后，需在 48 小时内完成下单，逾期券会自动作废；
每类商品每人仅限享受 1 次补贴，空调品类可放宽至每户 3 台；
收货地址需与实名信息保持一致，异地下单仅限大陆境内地区。

注意：贵州、广西等部分地区有专属发放时间（比如贵州每周五 10:30 开启抢券），可搜索「国补588」查询本地补贴动态。

四、避坑指南：4 个高频问题一次说透

Q1：必须以旧换新吗？旧机怎么处理？

不是强制要求以旧换新，但交旧能多拿一笔旧机折抵金。目前各平台普遍采用 "逆向物流" 模式，快递员送新机时会同步回收旧机，哪怕是损坏的冰箱、老旧手机，都能折算一定金额，且折抵金可与中央财政补贴叠加使用，更划算。

Q2：提示 "本地区额度已满" 怎么办？

这是前三批 "省级额度池" 机制下的遗留问题，第四轮已改为 "全国总池 + 2 小时实时更新"。

H | 遇到这种情况，可换一家平台自营旗舰店下单，或等 2 小时后再尝试，额度会自动调剂到位（河南、新疆全域暂停补贴的特殊情况除外）。

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Q3：地方补贴能叠加吗？

绝大多数省份都支持 "中央补贴 + 地方补贴" 双重叠加。

J | 比如广东新能源车额外补 1-3 万元，江苏绿色建材再补 10%，付款时系统会自动计算叠加后的总优惠金额，无需手动操作。

Q4：12 月下单来得及吗？

建议提前预留缓冲期：家电、数码类产品最好在 12 月 10 日前下单（留出退换货时间），汽车类需在 12 月 20 日前完成开票（避免年底税务系统拥堵），所有品类都必须在 12 月 31 日前完成支付，否则无法享受补贴。

3000 亿国补源自一次性特别国债资金，2026 年补贴力度将大幅退坡，下一轮大规模国补至少要等两年。

K | 现在距离截止只剩 92 天，与其被朋友圈的焦虑裹挟，不如趁额度充足时错峰申领 —— 打开京东搜索「家电588」锁定资格，加购商品后核对 "政府补贴已抵扣" 标签，48 小时内完成付款即可。毕竟这份官方 "年终红包"，真的不用靠抢。

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